A World Emerging from Pandemic: Implications for Intelligence and National Security (Part 2 of 2)

Speaker(s):
Kerbel, J. (Professor of Practice, National Intelligence University); Schenker, J. (Chairman, The Futurist Institute; President, Prestige Economics); Brown, Z. (Founder, Consilient Strategies)
Date of Event:
October 6, 2022
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Speaker(s): Kerbel, J. (Professor of Practice, National Intelligence University); Schenker, J. (Chairman, The Futurist Institute; President, Prestige Economics); Brown, Z. (Founder, Consilient Strategies)

Date: 6 October 2022

Speaker Session Summary

SMA hosted a speaker session with Mr. Josh Kerbel (Professor of Practice, National Intelligence University) and Mr. Jason Schenker (Chairman, The Futurist Institute; President, Prestige Economics) as part of its SMA NIU Panel Discussion.

The COVID-19 pandemic occurred at a time when the global community was more physically and digitally connected than ever before. Mr. Kerbel reflected that those working in the information community (IC) believed that the pandemic would alter their collective worldview and modus operandi. However, he believes that while a larger portion of the IC works from home than ever before, the pandemic did not actually change the IC’s worldview. Instead, while global COVID-19 rates have started to decrease, members of the IC have already started to shift their mindset back to Cold War-era thinking. This is partly because the IC is built to handle complicated issues well, but it is not currently structured to achieve its objectives in a modern world comprised of complex systems. For example, the cyber domain and digital realm did not exist during the Cold War. These developments have led to the addition of an entirely new theatre of asymmetric warfare since the Cold War. Mr. Kerbel also argued that even though some members in the IC believe that countries are going through a phase of deglobalization and that the US is decoupling from China, neither of these hypotheses are true.

Being able to better predict the future would assist the IC in its ability to prepare and handle oncoming challenges. Mr. Schenker commented that The Futurist Institute can help predict these future threats and chart them along event pathways. The institute identified four pathways in its framework relating to security issues, including: a) continuation, b) collapse and decline, c) discipline and limits, and d) transformation. When the COVID-19 pandemic began, the framework identified more optimistic pathways related to global security than the ones identified today. These more pessimistic pathways were identified following Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. Mr. Schenker identified several systemic threats exacerbated by the pandemic, including food insecurity, drought, jobs, disinformation, and growing diplomatic tensions between states, often within other states. Other growing threats from the post-pandemic era include the rising cost of living in developing countries, the persistently high price of gas, and China’s growing debt holdings over low-income countries.

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Mr. Josh Kerbel

Mr. Josh Kerbel is a Professor of Practice at NIU, where he researches the increasingly complexsecurity environment and the associated intelligence challenges. More specifically, he exploresanticipatory intelligence: how the IC can better anticipate the appearance and/or course ofemergent security phenomena. Prior to joining NIU, he held senior analytical positions at DIA,ODNI (including the NIC), the Navy staff, CIA, and ONI. His writings on the intersections ofgovernment—especially intelligence—and complexity have been published in Foreign Policy, TheWashington Post, Studies in Intelligence, Slate, The National Interest, The Hill, War on the Rocks,Defense One, and Parameters, among other outlets. Mr. Kerbel has degrees from the GeorgeWashington University and the London School of Economics, as well as professional certificationsfrom the Naval War College and the Naval Postgraduate School. More recently, he was a postgraduate fellow at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

Mr. Jason Schenker

Mr. Jason Schenker is the Chairman of The Futurist Institute and the President of PrestigeEconomics. He is the author of over 30 books and the creator of over 40 online courses aboutfinance, economics, risk management, leadership, and emerging technologies. Bloomberg Newshas ranked Mr. Schenker as the #1 forecaster in the world in 26 different categories, including oilprices, industrial metals prices, natural gas prices, the euro, the Russian ruble, and US jobs. Mr.Schenker has given over 1,000 speeches, including presenting to the National IntelligenceUniversity, Foreign Service Institute, NATO, USSOCOM, JSPOC, JSOU, SMA, 17th Training Wing,and CIA. Jason has given over 1,000 television interviews, and he has hosted BloombergTelevision. He has also appeared as a guest on CNBC, Fox, CNN, and the BBC. Mr. Schenker is a member of the Bretton Woods Committee and the Texas Business Leadership Council, a nonpartisan nonprofit of 100 CEOs in the state of Texas who advise Texas state and federal elected officials. He lives in Austin.

Mr. Zachery Tyson Brown

Mr. Zachery Tyson Brown is a career intelligence specialist and researcher who has worked on intelligence issues in the government, military, and private sector. Mr. Brown most recently graduated from the National Intelligence University's Master of Science of Strategic Intelligence program, where he focused on intelligence community leadership and management and was awarded the Lieutenant Colonel Michael D. Kuszewski Award for Outstanding Thesis onOperations-Intelligence Partnership. Mr. Brown's writings on intelligence, defense, and strategy have appeared in publications such as Foreign Affairs, Foreign Policy, and War on the Rocks.

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